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Tuesday, January 30, 2007
To all Anons
An anon, in the previous post on my breasts, kindly supplied me with the Quranic reference that forbids interfaith marriage for Muslim women. Apparently he/she must have thought that I somehow overlooked that verse when I read the the Quran and attempted to enlighten me. After all, we women don't have the ability to be discerning readers.

Seriously, though, guys, would it kill you to post comments under the appropriate posts???

Anyway, I'm answering his/her comment here because I want all the anons to read this and BACK OFF. You throw verses at me as if I were an ignorant cow and offer opinions that have absolutely no basis in the Quran. You think you're doing me a favor, but all you're doing is confirming to me how many ignorant people really exist out there.

First of all, I will completely ignore anon's earth-shattering interpretation of 2:221 ("It is not permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim from any other religion, whether from among the Jews or Christians...") because there's nothing to back that claim up.

The Quran says that NO MUSLIM, man or woman, is allowed to marry a mushrik (2:221) nor a kafir (60:10-11). NO MUSLIM. Period. End of discussion.

What most of you anons are telling me here, then, is that God, by allowing Muslim men to marry ahl al kitab (People of the Book) women (5:5), abrogated 2:221 and 60:10-11 JUST for men and allowed them to marry a mushrik or a kafir. You really think that God favors men THAT much to give them that kind of license? "Sure guys, go ahead and marry a mushrik. They're not as bad as you think they are..ignore the basic spiritual message I'm trying to convey to you. You're exempt because you're men". It doesn't sound like something the God I know would do.

But that's not my main argument. Silence on an issue does not equal a prohibition.

What makes Christian and Jewish MEN kufar or mushrikeen, but not Christian or Jewish women? Why didn't verse 5:5 read, "made lawful to you are chaste mushrik women"? THAT would definitely have abrogated all the other verses (2:221, 60:10-11).

No where in the Quran are Jews or Christians referred to as kufar. Some of their practices may be considered a type of kufr, but Muslims can very easily fall into that category as well. A kafir is a "rejecter of the truth", a person who is convinced of Islam in his/her heart but for some reason or another rejects it. You are not allowed to call anyone a kafir because you do not know what is in his/her heart, what he/she is convinced of or believes. That's up to God.

That's one down.

No where in the Quran are Jews or Christians referred to as mushrikeen. A mushrik is one who ascribes partners to God. While a lot of you anons like to say that believing in the trinity makes one a mushrik, none of the Christians I know actually ascribe partners to God. And if you talked to any Christian and tried to explain to him/her that they are ascribing partners to God, they'd laugh in your face.

Furthermore, the Quran has NEVER addressed Christians as mushrikeen.

Two down.

Christians and Jews have been referred to as People of the Book. Why are you and your kind, who portend to speak for God, define them as mushrikeen and kufar, denied to ALL Muslims by God?

Since you're so fond of pulling quotes from the Quran, what about these:

"Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve". (2:62)

"Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve". (5:69)

"Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians, Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God is witness of all things". (22:17)


Not all who call themselves Muslims will enter heaven. Not all who do not call themselves Muslim will be condemned to hell. Look at 22:17...are Christians referred to as polytheists???? That verse CLEARLY separates them from the polytheists, the mushrikeen you tell me I'm not allowed to marry, no?

What people like you, anons, are doing is filling in the silence of the Quran regarding the question of interfaith marriage for women. Neither the Quran nor the Sunnah explicitely forbid interfaith marriage for Muslim women. YOU are forbidding interfaith marriage.

"The halal is that which Allah has made lawful in His Book and haram is that which He has forbidden, and that concerning which He is silent He has permitted as a favour to you."
Reported in Al-Hakim.

So now please leave me alone unless you've been given some clear directive from God to change His word.

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